Episode 6

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26th Oct 2022

A Wakeup Call For Clinicians and Organizations with Dr. Nicola DePaul

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Welcome back to Therapist Expanded! Today I’m interviewing Dr. Nicola DePaul.

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  • Nicola shares her personal passions and her professional passion for clinician wellness
  • She goes on to describe how her past work focused on thinking globally and acting locally, as well as how her own vulnerable journey with burnout now informs her work and life
  • Nicola describes how she’s implemented boundaries in a field that asks for self-sacrifice, and that unlearning that self-sacrifice and that burnout is a wakeup call (once someone is ready to see they’re experiencing burnout)
  • Nicola shares that she works with healthcare leaders and how important, easeful, and empowering it is to focus on what’s within a their control
  • I share my supervisor’s question that helps prevent burnout: Am I acting responsibly or taking responsibility? Nicola describes what acting responsibly looks like in her work.
  • She mentions the loss of physicians in her organization and how that relates to not hearing the basic concerns of those physicians and how that has big impacts on morale and more when a physician leaves an organization
  • We discuss the use of anonymous surveys to gauge employee needs and improve morale
  • Nicola describes her core value of openness and how sharing our own mental health struggles as clinicians within organizations is important, and that some organizational cultures do not support this.
  • We discussed the difficulties of being a graduate student and how the hierarchical, less-than conditioning of being a student, and then entering a field that is full of trauma and gives out rewards for overworking, really fosters some of these challenges
  • We discuss the books Clockwork and The Big Leap
  • Nicola shares what mental health REVOLUTION means to her (it’s about empowerment and living in the zone of genius, and that a person’s contribution is so much more expansive showing up this way than in the societal expectations of pleasing and self-sacrifice). We explored her journey to showing up radically transparent in her relationships so others can have her actually in their lives.
  • She shares that hosting her own podcast Menders is what she’s meant to do, and allows her to create artwork in relationship
  • Nicola shares her perspective on failure and how this is leading to exciting new horizons
  • Checkout Nicola's Podcast Menders: Love & leadership in Health Systems

Thanks for listening!


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Therapist Expanded
Reaching past industry conditioning to the source of our creative power
Host Erin Gibb is a therapist, clinical supervisor, group practice owner, Therapist Fulfillment Coach, and early adopter of the weird and wonderful.

Through interviews with relatable guests, controversial outside-the-box thinkers, solo episodes, and coaching demos, you'll see how therapists are uniquely conditioned for fear, responsibility and unfulfillment. Therapist Expanded then points the way to reaching past industry constraints to the source of our creative power, because when we therapists dare to live our deepest dreams, we start a mental health revolution.

Wondering how living your core desires freely and fully could start a mental health revolution? Well as Carl Jung said, we'll only take our clients as far as we've gone, and your host has seen the incredible growth of those surrounding a therapist when they courageously dream outside of their conditioning.

So are you curious yet? Join us and let's expand together and watch our field grow!

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Erin Gibb

Erin Gibb is a Therapist Fulfillment Coach, group practice owner, clinical supervisor, therapist, and outside the box thinker inciting a mental health REVOLUTION.