Episode 2

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5th Oct 2022

Leaping Despite Fear with Katrina James

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Welcome back to Therapist Expanded! Today I’m interviewing Katrina James:

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  • We look at how the frame or story around our human experience as individuals shapes our reality
  • How the reframe came first from photography for Katrina and how the zoom-in or out works in human psychology and neuroscience (particularly during EMDR)
  • Katrina spoke about how reframing works in the case of entrepreneurs who can get stuck feeling like they and they alone can do things in their business
  • Katrina’s concept of burning down the house and starting fresh to revolutionize mental health, and how the shifts towards de-stigmatizing mental health in the younger generations may mean we don’t have to burn the whole mental health establishment down just yet
  • Indoctrination of therapists happens at different levels and we discussed how this relates to Katrina’s concept of living someone else’s life and how she helps entrepreneurs, and how Therapist Expanded is here to help therapists wake up from the dream of what we ‘should’ do in the field, and instead follow our dreams and desires to live our own life freely and fully 
  • A discussion of risk taking and burning things down in our own lives shows how we have overcome the safety messages, and Katrina shared specific examples of where she has let go of living other people’s idea of what her life should be
  • I shared my black sheep origins and how I pulled away from people and things to not be held down by feeling rejection
  • The common misconceptions around fear (particularly for entrepreneurs)
  • My ultimate reframe with fear and the way I got to my current relationship with fear and risk-taking as exhilarating instead of paralyzing (hint - I now turn towards pain and fear after the type of meditation I mention in the podcast taught me how)
  • Katrina has an ah-ha about what she’s holding herself back from and where her deepest desire to act is centred
  • We end with the power of belonging and modeling to face fear with others

Katrina's Website: www.reframecounselling.com.au

Thanks for listening!


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About the Podcast

Therapist Expanded
Reaching past industry conditioning to the source of our creative power
Host Erin Gibb is a therapist, clinical supervisor, group practice owner, Therapist Fulfillment Coach, and early adopter of the weird and wonderful.

Through interviews with relatable guests, controversial outside-the-box thinkers, solo episodes, and coaching demos, you'll see how therapists are uniquely conditioned for fear, responsibility and unfulfillment. Therapist Expanded then points the way to reaching past industry constraints to the source of our creative power, because when we therapists dare to live our deepest dreams, we start a mental health revolution.

Wondering how living your core desires freely and fully could start a mental health revolution? Well as Carl Jung said, we'll only take our clients as far as we've gone, and your host has seen the incredible growth of those surrounding a therapist when they courageously dream outside of their conditioning.

So are you curious yet? Join us and let's expand together and watch our field grow!

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Erin Gibb

Erin Gibb is a Therapist Fulfillment Coach, group practice owner, clinical supervisor, therapist, and outside the box thinker inciting a mental health REVOLUTION.