Episode 15

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28th Dec 2022

Living Authentically In the Therapy Arena with Christine Hall of Black Sheep Counselling

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Welcome back to Therapist Expanded! Today I’m interviewing Christine Hall of Black Sheep Counselling!

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  • Christine Shares that she's fierce about choice when working with her clients and knows they are the absolute experts in their lives; authenticity is a core value for her
  • We discuss the authentic self of the therapists and the push-back we’ve both gotten from colleagues when expressing our authenticity in our practices
  • Christine states “wisdom is healed pain” 
  • She shared the importance of healthy self-disclosure, and how story has lineage and resonance that goes back to our ancient roots
  • I shared what I see with interns and the conditioning from graduate school to not practice from the authentic self, and Christine shares how ‘self-care’ is not really modeled or allowed for at the graduate school level
  • Christine shares her varied background (over 100 jobs, 35 moves, and travel to 45 countries) and that she sees how her background and her failures and successes contribute to her being a better therapist
  • She also describes the meaning and importance she makes around bottom-up approaches - I agree and we discuss
  • Christine sees how the many top-down approaches her clients have tried before meeting her leads to feelings of shame because none of us can think our way out of trauma
  • I share that when taking on new therapists in my clinic I have two prerequisites: they understand we all fundamentally heal ourselves, and they’re open to bottom-up approaches
  • We discuss our different views on mental health revolution, systems, and Christine’s strong aversion to a common statement, “we’ve always done it this way”
  • Christine paints us a powerful and beautiful picture of her life as a traveler, and what that’s contributed to her worldview, along with how she brings the word 'awe' into the therapy room, and how experiencing awe is why she travels!
  • I share what I believe is the psychic trauma of being continually measured and compared from in utero and beyond in North America
  • I share a personal story of witnessing my conditioning and moving beyond it, and we discuss how awe and mindfulness fits into our daily lives
  • I share how you can come from joy and ease; laundry can be easeful and joyful
  • Christine shares her powerful story of when she held herself back and felt unworthy, and then when she let go with faith and went after her desire (this involved a fire that burned down her home!)
  • Christine shares that she takes feedback from the person who’s in the arena, vulnerably living and putting themselves out there, rather than those in the cheap seats
  • Christine has built a strong social media following where she shares free resources and important messages with the world - here’s where you can check her out: her website, Facebook page, Instagram, and LinkedIn profile

Thanks for listening!


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Therapist Expanded
Reaching past industry conditioning to the source of our creative power
Host Erin Gibb is a therapist, clinical supervisor, group practice owner, Therapist Fulfillment Coach, and early adopter of the weird and wonderful.

Through interviews with relatable guests, controversial outside-the-box thinkers, solo episodes, and coaching demos, you'll see how therapists are uniquely conditioned for fear, responsibility and unfulfillment. Therapist Expanded then points the way to reaching past industry constraints to the source of our creative power, because when we therapists dare to live our deepest dreams, we start a mental health revolution.

Wondering how living your core desires freely and fully could start a mental health revolution? Well as Carl Jung said, we'll only take our clients as far as we've gone, and your host has seen the incredible growth of those surrounding a therapist when they courageously dream outside of their conditioning.

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Erin Gibb

Erin Gibb is a Therapist Fulfillment Coach, group practice owner, clinical supervisor, therapist, and outside the box thinker inciting a mental health REVOLUTION.